[NOTE: 2008 POLLING CLOSED! Revised post reflects all nominees for the 2008 awards]
The bigger they are the harder they fall! Especially loudmouthed, obnoxious politicos who get caught with their hand in the cookie jar! I think we're sick of "do as we say not as we do," so I think its time we do as they did and plaster their asses on a virtual registry of shame.
My inaugural nominee is-- Mark "The Page Master" Foley!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
Marky Mark was on the NCMEC committee where he will be "sorely missed" (we can only guess which body part will be sorest). He help push that Abominable Walsh Act through Congress. All the while he pined for a teenage congressional page to "sharpen his pencil."
His excuse? He's an "alcoholic," and he was "molested by a priest" as a child. Well I was molested, physically abused, and abandoned as a kid, but I don't use it as an excuse for my crime. Of course Foley had about 500 or so enablers, affectionately known as the US Congress, who happily swept it under the rug for years. Which of course, means pass more sex crime laws to save face. Did I mention he's not facing charges? I'm setting the bar high, y'all.
WarpedOhio said...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/marc-dann-ohio-attorney-g_n_99913.html
Let us not forge disgraced Ohio AG Mark Dann (apparently he thought AG stood for ass-grabber) who pushed the Atrocious Walsh Act throug Ohio. Later it was discover not just he, but his WHOLE OFFICE embroiled in a sex scandal, with affairs and sexual harassment! To top it off, he refused to resign for almost a whole month, dspite repeated requests and loss of endorcement from his OWN political party!
WarpedOhio said...
Lets not Forget Gov. Eliot Spitzer of New York, who made prostitution a registerable offense, then got busted soliciting prostitutes for sex.
And I-Da-HO Sen. Larry Craig, anti-gay equality advocate, for his toe-tapping good time inside a public bathroom. Guess he took a "wide stance" on more than congresssional issues if you catch my drift LOL
Friday, June 27, 2008
Nominate the Dumbest Sex Offender Law 2008
[NOTE: POLLING FOR 2008 AWARDS CLOSED! Edited post reveals all nominees for the 2008 awards]
Pretty much every RSO law is ineffective and counterproductive, but some laws are simply incomprehensible. These laws are the epitome of stupidity, and deserve a star on the walk of shame.
There are so many of them-- where do we start?
My inaugural nominee for this Category is the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006! (I bet nobody is surprised)
http://www.oncefallen.com/AdamWalshAct.html
There are so many holes in the practice of this law, it could only be used for whale nets. Lets see, how about the mass confusion over how offenders would be reclassified, gives the NCMEC immunity from lawsuits for all their screwups, allows for the uncivil commitment of offenders on the basis of a "mental illness" (if mental illness is a risk actor, a lot of lawmakers would be suspect), calls for GPS "pilot programs" (the microchips are coming soon, BTW), and stiff mandatory minimums, among other nasties. I wonder why the Senate had to hold an "emergency meeting" to push this abomination through legislature? Why Johnny boy Walsh had to claim detractors here child molesters to strong-arm it through legislature (By the way, why is it named for someone who ISN'T a sex crime victim anyways?)? And why did Attorney General Gonzal-ASS have to exploit a loophole in AG office procedure to apply this law unconstituionally retroactive? Smells like shiitake to me! Blow-hio and Joke-lahoma have passed the Abominable Walsh Act in their states, sending thousands of low risk offenders like drunken mooners or teens having consentual sex with each other, into the "high risk" category. Not to mention the THOUSANDS of subsequent lawsuits, and more confusion over the application of this nonsensical law! I believe AWA will win hands down. However, I believe there are equally insane laws out there that needs the spotlight!
WarpedOhio said...
How about the KIDS Act of 2008?The Internet registration law, where Former Ofenders are supposed to register emails and screen names? Its a dumb and pointless law written by someone who CN'T TURN ON A COMPUTER! Can you say "computer illiterate?"
September 23, 2008 7:48 PM
Anonymous said...
There are so many because the concept is so flawed!
California's Proposition 83:Parolees aren't allowed to leave SF county but there is no place in SF county they are allowed to live.
Alabama's Community Notification Act:Makes it a felony for an RSO to be homeless - they must register an address or go back to jail.Can't communicate with family of victim. Many RSO's commit a felony by talking to themselves.Can't reside within 1000 yds of former victim. How can they obey this law without always knowing where the victim resides? Stalking is illegal.
Georgia's 42-1-15: So absurd that it's the only one that that is almost immediately overturned with each revision. RSO's can't die in a hospice if it's near a church.
October 22, 2008 4:20 PM
Anonymous said...
HR 3488 Camera Phone Law: Congress is trying to pass a law requiring camera on cell phones to make a sound when they take pictures because people allegedly take pics in dressing rooms using cell phone pics.
October 25, 2008 6:00 PM
Anonymous said...
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/NEWS/804060343/-1/NEWS01
Maine's "Visual Sexual Aggression Law," making excessive staring at minors a sex crime. And just how will you enforce it?
October 25, 2008 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...
http://cbs2chicago.com/national/sex.offenders.Pell.2.787104.html
Now Congress is denying Pell grants to Former Offenders as well! So now you can't get an education either?
Anonymous said...
http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/07/02/indiana-law-on-sexually-explicit-material-registration-is-rule-unconstitutional/
Indiana tried to force people who sell sexually explicit items to REGISTER and pay a fee. Luckily the state court struck it down
October 25, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
www.oncefallen.com/HurricaneShelters.html
Laws designed to segregate Former Offenders in hurricane shelters, or even deny shelter
October 25, 2008 6:13 PM
And just in the nick of time...
Sex Offender Halloween Laws!
Pretty much every RSO law is ineffective and counterproductive, but some laws are simply incomprehensible. These laws are the epitome of stupidity, and deserve a star on the walk of shame.
There are so many of them-- where do we start?
My inaugural nominee for this Category is the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006! (I bet nobody is surprised)
http://www.oncefallen.com/AdamWalshAct.html
There are so many holes in the practice of this law, it could only be used for whale nets. Lets see, how about the mass confusion over how offenders would be reclassified, gives the NCMEC immunity from lawsuits for all their screwups, allows for the uncivil commitment of offenders on the basis of a "mental illness" (if mental illness is a risk actor, a lot of lawmakers would be suspect), calls for GPS "pilot programs" (the microchips are coming soon, BTW), and stiff mandatory minimums, among other nasties. I wonder why the Senate had to hold an "emergency meeting" to push this abomination through legislature? Why Johnny boy Walsh had to claim detractors here child molesters to strong-arm it through legislature (By the way, why is it named for someone who ISN'T a sex crime victim anyways?)? And why did Attorney General Gonzal-ASS have to exploit a loophole in AG office procedure to apply this law unconstituionally retroactive? Smells like shiitake to me! Blow-hio and Joke-lahoma have passed the Abominable Walsh Act in their states, sending thousands of low risk offenders like drunken mooners or teens having consentual sex with each other, into the "high risk" category. Not to mention the THOUSANDS of subsequent lawsuits, and more confusion over the application of this nonsensical law! I believe AWA will win hands down. However, I believe there are equally insane laws out there that needs the spotlight!
WarpedOhio said...
How about the KIDS Act of 2008?The Internet registration law, where Former Ofenders are supposed to register emails and screen names? Its a dumb and pointless law written by someone who CN'T TURN ON A COMPUTER! Can you say "computer illiterate?"
September 23, 2008 7:48 PM
Anonymous said...
There are so many because the concept is so flawed!
California's Proposition 83:Parolees aren't allowed to leave SF county but there is no place in SF county they are allowed to live.
Alabama's Community Notification Act:Makes it a felony for an RSO to be homeless - they must register an address or go back to jail.Can't communicate with family of victim. Many RSO's commit a felony by talking to themselves.Can't reside within 1000 yds of former victim. How can they obey this law without always knowing where the victim resides? Stalking is illegal.
Georgia's 42-1-15: So absurd that it's the only one that that is almost immediately overturned with each revision. RSO's can't die in a hospice if it's near a church.
October 22, 2008 4:20 PM
Anonymous said...
HR 3488 Camera Phone Law: Congress is trying to pass a law requiring camera on cell phones to make a sound when they take pictures because people allegedly take pics in dressing rooms using cell phone pics.
October 25, 2008 6:00 PM
Anonymous said...
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/NEWS/804060343/-1/NEWS01
Maine's "Visual Sexual Aggression Law," making excessive staring at minors a sex crime. And just how will you enforce it?
October 25, 2008 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...
http://cbs2chicago.com/national/sex.offenders.Pell.2.787104.html
Now Congress is denying Pell grants to Former Offenders as well! So now you can't get an education either?
Anonymous said...
http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/07/02/indiana-law-on-sexually-explicit-material-registration-is-rule-unconstitutional/
Indiana tried to force people who sell sexually explicit items to REGISTER and pay a fee. Luckily the state court struck it down
October 25, 2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...
www.oncefallen.com/HurricaneShelters.html
Laws designed to segregate Former Offenders in hurricane shelters, or even deny shelter
October 25, 2008 6:13 PM
And just in the nick of time...
Sex Offender Halloween Laws!
Worst Quote Ever 2008
[NOTE: POLLING FOR 2008 CLOSED! Edited post reveals 2008 nominees]
Former offenders catch a lot of flack from politicos and celebrity "activists," but a few of these individuals go above and beyond the usual spiel to let out choice quotes that, quite frankly, should sicken and appall anyone who hears and reads it. Sadly, most of this sickening behavior is actually applauded by the general public. Let us give them the dishonor they deserve:
The inaugural nominee is... John Walsh from America's Most Wanted!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/zap-presstournotes,0,1056741.story?coll=bal-news-nav
So many quotes, so little time:
"Now, I don't want to sound like a vigilante. That's something that I don't believe in..."
"I said I was kidding when I was talking to the Senate and I said they were talking about electronic monitoring, which is big and unwieldy for the sex offenders, and that some of these guys, no matter what the law in their state was, would have to wear one for 20 years or whatever. I said implant it in their anus and if they go outside the radius, explode it and that would send a big message. It was a joke. Nobody thought it was funny."
"I'm all for criminals doing their time, all for rehabilitation, all for a second chance." followed almost immediately by "I say put the pedophiles down in the yard. Put them in there. Let them do the time with the rest of the guys. Let them see what it's like to be terrorized by a 250-pound guy."
Things got more heated, though, when a photographer under FOX's employee elected to get into an extended and rather intense conversation with Walsh about marking sexual offenders. They were on so much on the same page that when Walsh mentioned bracelets for perpetrators, the photographer replied, "Not bracelets, not bracelets. The bracelets bulls***. The bracelets bulls***, John, you know that. It's BS." Walsh then suggested putting embedded GPS chips, to which the photographer said, "I'll say bury it deep inside them, is what I say. I don't care how big it is," which earned Walsh's scary reply, "I love your attitude."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501590_pf.html
Continuing his riveting performance, he said his wife had suggested that when he went to Washington to stump for the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, he ask all the congressmen who he thought were holding up the legislation named in honor of his son whether they were child molesters or if they had child porn on their computers. "I said, 'Reve, I don't really use that tack walking through the halls.' But leave it to the mother of a murdered child to cut to the chase."
Gee, I wonder if Johnny boy thought to ask Mark Foley that last question? Foley signed the Abominable Walsh Act in one hand while naughty-texting teen pages in the other hand.
I welcome any other choice quotes to be nominated for this category!
WarpedOhio said...
"I hope they bring these grubs to justice," Mr Johnson said. "We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly."If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ...maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that."This quote came from the "Land Down Under, from Central Queensland politician Vaughan Johnson. Noted June 7, 2008, The Morning Bulletin http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3774975
Makes you wonder what was added to his vegemite sandwich, mate.
June 27, 2008 7:07 PM
WarpedOhio said...
"I whole heartedly support mandatory sentencing as well lifetime monitoring with strong resrictions and regulations. And as for as I am concerned these people should be thankful we allow them out of prison at all. You can play this card that politicians only do this because they are trying to be tough on crime line but again this discounts the fact they are working to make our communities safer. And I personally don’t believe their is any such thing as a “first time offender”, I believe its just the first time the have been caught. And once they have been caught, then we should refer to them as Registered sex offenders! Have a great day."This dumb quote was written by Georgia Republican Steve Davis.
http://steve-davis.org/blog/?p=334#comment-36797
Steve Davis is a bona Fide dumbass who obviously can't read facts that sex offender laws don't work
June 27, 2008 7:14 PM
WarpedOhio said...
http://www.cantonrep.com/printable.php?ID=337082
Here is one from Hamilton County Ohio Prosecuter Jaywalking Joe Deters: Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters, who is named in the lawsuit, said the law is constitutional and it's his job to enforce it. "I feel bad for him," he said of Winslow. "I know it's cold outside, but we have to enforce the law. There is no constitutional right to warmth." Oh really, Jaywalking Joe? Isn't pilfering the state funds while you were state Treasurer a crime? (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/15/loc_loc1allen.html) Maybe someone should kick HIS ass out in the cold
June 27, 2008 7:42 PM
WarpedOhio said...
http://blog.bobbyjindal.com/2008/building-a-better-workforce/
"I know some folks think it is great that you can go online today and see where these monsters live, block by block – but I look forward to the day when you can go online and see that they all live in one place – in Angola – far away from our kids." Ah yes, the imfamous "Angola" Speeech by Louisiana Governor Piyush "Bobby" Jindal. He claims he calls himself "Bobby" after one of the Brady Bunch, I think he should be called "Jack" as in jack-ass
June 27, 2008 7:51 PM
ZMan! said...
On my blog is some quotes from the jerk Jerry Keen
.http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/11/ga-quotes-from-hb-1059-sponsor-jerry.html
Also, I have some item on my blog, which I can't seem to find, about some representative from California (I believe) who said:"The real intent of these laws is to put all sex offenders behind bars!"And she said that on the record. Now for the life of me, I cannot remember who said it. [note: I actually goofed and attributed that quote to Jerry Keen, but no matter, Keen says a lot of stupid things]ZMan! said...
Ok, here is the other news article where this lady says:"The real intent of Jessica’s Law is to put people that violate children and others in prison and keep them there."http://blog.austindefense.com/2008/01/articles/general/the-real-point-of-sex-offender-residency-restrictions/
The point of this is not to make folks’ hearts bleed for sex offenders. But let’s acknowledge what the real point of these laws is. Or better yet, let’s hear from San Diego County District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis, who when asked by the reporter the perfunctory ‘where are they supposed to go?’ replied:
The real intent of Jessica’s Law is to put people that violate children and others in prison and keep them there.
July 20, 2008 6:47 AM
WarpedOhio said...
http://www.katc.com/global/story.asp?s=5076088&ClientType=Printable
Few topics were as popular in the Capitol, leading Rep. Danny Martiny, R-Metairie, to joke about it as the legislative session wound to a close.Said Martiny: "Is there anything left we can do to sex offenders with a few days left in the session?" Wow. Destroying every shred of dignity in a human being is a "joke" to this idiot. That son of a bitch.
August 29, 2008 12:04 AM
Former offenders catch a lot of flack from politicos and celebrity "activists," but a few of these individuals go above and beyond the usual spiel to let out choice quotes that, quite frankly, should sicken and appall anyone who hears and reads it. Sadly, most of this sickening behavior is actually applauded by the general public. Let us give them the dishonor they deserve:
The inaugural nominee is... John Walsh from America's Most Wanted!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/zap-presstournotes,0,1056741.story?coll=bal-news-nav
So many quotes, so little time:
"Now, I don't want to sound like a vigilante. That's something that I don't believe in..."
"I said I was kidding when I was talking to the Senate and I said they were talking about electronic monitoring, which is big and unwieldy for the sex offenders, and that some of these guys, no matter what the law in their state was, would have to wear one for 20 years or whatever. I said implant it in their anus and if they go outside the radius, explode it and that would send a big message. It was a joke. Nobody thought it was funny."
"I'm all for criminals doing their time, all for rehabilitation, all for a second chance." followed almost immediately by "I say put the pedophiles down in the yard. Put them in there. Let them do the time with the rest of the guys. Let them see what it's like to be terrorized by a 250-pound guy."
Things got more heated, though, when a photographer under FOX's employee elected to get into an extended and rather intense conversation with Walsh about marking sexual offenders. They were on so much on the same page that when Walsh mentioned bracelets for perpetrators, the photographer replied, "Not bracelets, not bracelets. The bracelets bulls***. The bracelets bulls***, John, you know that. It's BS." Walsh then suggested putting embedded GPS chips, to which the photographer said, "I'll say bury it deep inside them, is what I say. I don't care how big it is," which earned Walsh's scary reply, "I love your attitude."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501590_pf.html
Continuing his riveting performance, he said his wife had suggested that when he went to Washington to stump for the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, he ask all the congressmen who he thought were holding up the legislation named in honor of his son whether they were child molesters or if they had child porn on their computers. "I said, 'Reve, I don't really use that tack walking through the halls.' But leave it to the mother of a murdered child to cut to the chase."
Gee, I wonder if Johnny boy thought to ask Mark Foley that last question? Foley signed the Abominable Walsh Act in one hand while naughty-texting teen pages in the other hand.
I welcome any other choice quotes to be nominated for this category!
WarpedOhio said...
"I hope they bring these grubs to justice," Mr Johnson said. "We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly."If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ...maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that."This quote came from the "Land Down Under, from Central Queensland politician Vaughan Johnson. Noted June 7, 2008, The Morning Bulletin http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3774975
Makes you wonder what was added to his vegemite sandwich, mate.
June 27, 2008 7:07 PM
WarpedOhio said...
"I whole heartedly support mandatory sentencing as well lifetime monitoring with strong resrictions and regulations. And as for as I am concerned these people should be thankful we allow them out of prison at all. You can play this card that politicians only do this because they are trying to be tough on crime line but again this discounts the fact they are working to make our communities safer. And I personally don’t believe their is any such thing as a “first time offender”, I believe its just the first time the have been caught. And once they have been caught, then we should refer to them as Registered sex offenders! Have a great day."This dumb quote was written by Georgia Republican Steve Davis.
http://steve-davis.org/blog/?p=334#comment-36797
Steve Davis is a bona Fide dumbass who obviously can't read facts that sex offender laws don't work
June 27, 2008 7:14 PM
WarpedOhio said...
http://www.cantonrep.com/printable.php?ID=337082
Here is one from Hamilton County Ohio Prosecuter Jaywalking Joe Deters: Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters, who is named in the lawsuit, said the law is constitutional and it's his job to enforce it. "I feel bad for him," he said of Winslow. "I know it's cold outside, but we have to enforce the law. There is no constitutional right to warmth." Oh really, Jaywalking Joe? Isn't pilfering the state funds while you were state Treasurer a crime? (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/15/loc_loc1allen.html) Maybe someone should kick HIS ass out in the cold
June 27, 2008 7:42 PM
WarpedOhio said...
http://blog.bobbyjindal.com/2008/building-a-better-workforce/
"I know some folks think it is great that you can go online today and see where these monsters live, block by block – but I look forward to the day when you can go online and see that they all live in one place – in Angola – far away from our kids." Ah yes, the imfamous "Angola" Speeech by Louisiana Governor Piyush "Bobby" Jindal. He claims he calls himself "Bobby" after one of the Brady Bunch, I think he should be called "Jack" as in jack-ass
June 27, 2008 7:51 PM
ZMan! said...
On my blog is some quotes from the jerk Jerry Keen
.http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/11/ga-quotes-from-hb-1059-sponsor-jerry.html
Also, I have some item on my blog, which I can't seem to find, about some representative from California (I believe) who said:"The real intent of these laws is to put all sex offenders behind bars!"And she said that on the record. Now for the life of me, I cannot remember who said it. [note: I actually goofed and attributed that quote to Jerry Keen, but no matter, Keen says a lot of stupid things]ZMan! said...
Ok, here is the other news article where this lady says:"The real intent of Jessica’s Law is to put people that violate children and others in prison and keep them there."http://blog.austindefense.com/2008/01/articles/general/the-real-point-of-sex-offender-residency-restrictions/
The point of this is not to make folks’ hearts bleed for sex offenders. But let’s acknowledge what the real point of these laws is. Or better yet, let’s hear from San Diego County District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis, who when asked by the reporter the perfunctory ‘where are they supposed to go?’ replied:
The real intent of Jessica’s Law is to put people that violate children and others in prison and keep them there.
July 20, 2008 6:47 AM
WarpedOhio said...
http://www.katc.com/global/story.asp?s=5076088&ClientType=Printable
Few topics were as popular in the Capitol, leading Rep. Danny Martiny, R-Metairie, to joke about it as the legislative session wound to a close.Said Martiny: "Is there anything left we can do to sex offenders with a few days left in the session?" Wow. Destroying every shred of dignity in a human being is a "joke" to this idiot. That son of a bitch.
August 29, 2008 12:04 AM
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